Now Keeping In Mind That
by dedman on Sep 27, 2009 7:01 PM EDT
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I have wanted the Bucs to start Josh Johnson since they drafted him late in the 2008 draft when i used to post on here a lot so seeing him take over the offense late in todays game made me feel good about rooting for the underdog. For all of the time leftwhich was in he was 6/17 for 22 yards. shitty eh? Josh Johnson came in and moved the offense. He had two first downs and more total yards than Leftwhich IN HIS FIRST TWO PLAYS. On his second play in he showed his 4.4 speed and scrambled for a gain of about 15. Im gonna go ahead and ask anyone on here if they think either of the two other qbs on our roster could run for 15 yards at will. Im gonna opt to say no to that question for being black, Leftwhich is slow as a hanging shit just like his throwing motion and they call Freeman mobile but hes not even in JJs league when it comes to speed. Minus the goal line stand bye the giants defense JJ moved the ball effectively and threw smart passes to OPEN recievers instead of trying to force the ball. Has anyone noticed Leftwhich tries to get rid of the ball as hes going down? He dosent try to throw it away he tries to get it to a reciever thats normally 20 yards away. Thats happened 2 weeks in a row now where he tries to get the ball away while going down and throws a pick. Now Morris has said JJ is the perminant backup (WTF THAT MAKES NO SENSE) what other coach in the NFL goes "ah hell my starter didnt play well last week lets skip the second string and start our 3rd string"???????????????? Really? What kind of assbackward logic is that? My question is this. our season at this point is looking pretty dismal, whats it going to hurt us to give Josh Johnson a shot? let him start a few games. You can easily recognize the difference in how smooth the offense runs with JJ in compared to Leftwhich. So check it lemme know whatchu think and vote lemme know why or why not you think JJ should or shouldnt start.
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I WANT LEFTWHICH
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by Buc Wild on Sep 27, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
?
You want Lefty? Don’t we need a spark with some young talent?
by bucsfan4life on Sep 27, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm
People- Please.
WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
ALSO! NOW THE HEAD OF THE PUFFY-ROD BANDWAGON.
by Some other guy who does not care on Sep 27, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Freeman
not because I like his chances I just want to get him out there and let him fail so we know where we stand next year
by bucfanlostiniowa on Sep 27, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How does that tell you anything?
Buc Wild just had a post where he showed first year performances by QBs don’t mean much at all. One year for any player is rather meaningless, yet you seem to be convinced 13 games is going to tell you enough to make a confident decision either way?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 27, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That requires people to read what I wrote
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by Buc Wild on Sep 27, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is likely....
before it is all over with that the Bucs will have started all the QBs by the end of the season and realize why even the greatest teams can’t just take any Joe out of college and make him into an NFL quality productive win producing QB! They are either born with it or they are not.
Even some of the great college level QBs have failed in the NFL.
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
by Tye on Sep 27, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hellooooooooooo?
you guys are saying not much we can do even if peyton were back there becuase of the penetration but thats why i pointed out speed JJ is fast as hell with a collapsing pocket a good smart fast qb can get the hell outa dodge and make things happen thus creating josh johnson stardom
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"i dont know any way to lead but by example" -Don Shula
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by dedman on Sep 27, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude
this is not Madden. Most of the players on the defense are just as fast as Johnson. He will get crushed and injured if he scrambles more than a few times a game.
by LeeCaz on Sep 28, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares?
Everyone is worried about our young quarterbacks getting crushed. Why?
by buccanator on Sep 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed with buccanator
why are you afraid to get our qbs crushed whatr we honestly gonna lose from that and im not going with madden fantasys here because if i reall was he rated like a 52 which is BS just like the rest of the ratings this year. HOWEVER thats not the point the point is his speed is good enough to get out of the pocket and get past the LB core for 10-15+ almost everytime as long as theres just a little open space. theres only a handfull of qbs in the NFL with that kind of quickness that are actually qb and not glorified rbs with decent arms
"yesterdays a cancelled check, today is money on the line, tommarow is a promisary note" - unknown
"the trouble with me is that my ego just cant accept a loss" -Vince Lombardi
"i dont know any way to lead but by example" -Don Shula
"the only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary" -unknown
"the harder you work the harder it is for you to surrender" -vince lombardi
by dedman on Oct 3, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ Johnson got to play instead of Leftwich
I know Freeman is the “Franchise” Qb, but leftwich wasnt hurt, He just played terrible so JJ got his chance to play and not Freeman. To me…that says Morris is giving him a shot to out perform Leftwich. I dont think JJ’s performance was worthy of a guranteed start. But if Leftwich continues to play like last week dont worry he will get his chance, from todays game it looks like Morris isnt going to throw Freeman out there for awile.
The whole thing about leftwich being black was kind of funny…a little narrow minded, but a big reason he is not mobile is becuase of the the injury he got in college at Marshall. Remember the classic game of his Oline carrying him.
by Hook85 on Sep 27, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You are right....
I’ll start by saying that I am behind Raheem Morris 100%. People are reacting like the sky is falling, now don’t get me wrong…this game was easily the worst game I have ever watched. But its not time to pressure anyone to make any rash decisions. That is besides replacing Byron with JJ. I was trying to support Leftwich early on and he did OK. He rebounded alright after two early picks last week, but he is one dimensional. We need to test our young talent, and they have the potential to bring more to the position.
This was the third week. We have to keep are heads.
by Tetris on Sep 27, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Right
lets not make any rash decisions like firing Jags before the season even starts lets keep our heads afterall each game is worse than the last and there is only 13 more
by bucfanlostiniowa on Sep 27, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind losing
but looking worse and worse every week, that is the problem. We are suppose to get better week after week and develope an identity before the season is over. The signs are pointing in the direction of not accomplishing anything this year except of how bad a NFL team can possibly be. Offensive direction? how many yards today? That is a joke, with no excusses not even injuries. A college team can do better than that against a pro team. Defensive direction? No pressure. No consistency at any position. Is it the players or coaches or both?
I’m going to attend the Washington game next week. We have to win that game. I know it’s only the 4th game but this is a chance to get some positive things accomplished. Come out with a win against a team who is BAD. Very BAD. Get some confidence in the players, coaches, and fans.
by buccanator on Sep 28, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes
i feel good with Leftwich at QB, but other times, where he just LAUNCHES it, is hilarious. He seems to have zero touch. He either throws it SO hard, it spirals into the ground, or the receivers find a way to hold on.
Josh Johnson had some good touch, but man, did you see him in the redzone?
…as Chris Burman would say…: “ZING”
by rjblitz02 on Sep 27, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JJ did the same thing in the red zone.
He ripped three passes in there instead of taking something off.
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by Buc Wild on Sep 28, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he'll get better with time with that though
you could tell JJ was a little uneasy so close to the goal line but hell need game experience to find out what works when you get close like that take away the goal line drive and JJ was 4-6 38 yards 15 yards rushing on one drive. point being his open field awareness (our 20 to their 20) looks good and gives us somthing to hope for he just needs to work at his goaline awareness
"yesterdays a cancelled check, today is money on the line, tommarow is a promisary note" - unknown
"the trouble with me is that my ego just cant accept a loss" -Vince Lombardi
"i dont know any way to lead but by example" -Don Shula
"the only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary" -unknown
"the harder you work the harder it is for you to surrender" -vince lombardi
by dedman on Oct 3, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quarterbacs
Leftwich has absolutely no busniess being a starting Quartebck, and the simple fact that it took Morris this long to sit him shows his inexperience. Split the time with Johnson and Freeman, what could it hurt? Let them gain as much experience as possible. It’s obvious Byron is a dead end for us and frankly I’m tired of watching him, it’s like we have Fat Albert as a QB, at lease with the Joshes I can watch with some kind of excitement.
by bullmurph on Sep 28, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leftwich at Quarterback was a subject
that I brought up was a bad idea after the first week. I got crucified for saying bad things about him. It is amazing how after 2 weeks, everyone is saying the same thing I did. How things change.
by buccanator on Sep 28, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your not the only one
But after his first 2 games it was hard to complain, but I still insisted he wouldnt keep up at that pace. See my post before the season started of season predictions with a poll.
Anyway it wasnt hard to predict Leftwich was going to be bad.
by Hook85 on Sep 28, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alot of people thought differently
This week will be interesting to read what everyone is thinking……
by buccanator on Sep 28, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I too experienced the same...
Some people just put hopes in things that just doesn’t deserve them sometimes. Leftwich is never going to get a team to the SB and it seems 31 other teams had already figured that out but the Bucs. Unfortunately now we have all this controversy each week over a guy that likely couldn’t and shouldn’t even start in the CFL or the UFL for that matter in my opinion. Nevertheless their will be people that back him to the bitter end and make excuses for him no mater how bad he SUCKS!
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
by Tye on Sep 28, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't split time with QB's at the NFL level.
It accomplishes nothing. Neither guy gets any consistency going and is constantly looking over their shoulder.
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by Buc Wild on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats the same with most levels
"yesterdays a cancelled check, today is money on the line, tommarow is a promisary note" - unknown
"the trouble with me is that my ego just cant accept a loss" -Vince Lombardi
"i dont know any way to lead but by example" -Don Shula
"the only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary" -unknown
"the harder you work the harder it is for you to surrender" -vince lombardi
by dedman on Oct 3, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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