Should the Bucs look ahead to next off-seasons Free Agent QB Class?

by The Bull Gator on Apr 8, 2009 9:54 AM EDT in News Comment 19 comments

Posted on behalf of the man with the red and pewter plan, JScott.

To some of your chagrin’s the Buccaneers are set to work out Kansas State QB Josh Freeman next week, April 14-15, Tuesday and Wednesday. If for some reason the Bucs decide not to bring in a fourth QB and Luke McCown or Josh Johnson struggle next season, there is always next off-seasons Free Agent QB Class (or is there?):

Jason Campbell Washington Redskins - Was dangled in the potential Jay Cutler sweepstakes. I wouldn’t be filled with excitement if we in fact brought him in. He was serviceable in College and hasn’t done much in his NFL Career. Meh…

Kellen Clemens New York Jets - He is expected to battle QB Brett Ratliff this off-season for starting duties in New York. His performance this season will dictate whether he hits the market or gets re-signed. Obviously if he hits the market he probably wasn’t too successful, in which case: Pass…

Eli Manning New York Giants - Let’s be honest with ourselves, Eli Manning will not become a Free Agent. His contract will either be extended or he will be franchise tagged. Regardless of the naysayers, he won a Super Bowl in New York. We have no shot at him unless the Giants pull a McDaniels on him.

Kyle Orton Denver Broncos - Take Kellen Clemens scenario and apply it to Kyle Orton. He’ll battle Chris Simms (queue the laughter) for the starting nod and even then he’s married to McDaniels and the Broncos, no way they let him go.

Philip Rivers San Diego Chargers - Take Eli’s scenario (minus the Super Bowl Victory) and apply it to Rivers. This isn’t to say Rivers/Manning aren’t attainable, as the Broncos proved this off-season Franchise QB’s can be had, but it’s HIGHLY unlikely and so forget it. Like now!

What Bucs fans can get keep tabs on for next off-season in the event that McCown or Johnson fail is the College Football season. Texas QB Colt McCoy, Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford, and Florida QB Tim Tebow will all be available via the NFL Draft. Bradford and McCoy would have been Top 10 Quarterbacks this off-season had they declared for the Draft. Tebow’s projected draft slot is up in the air as Draft Experts (ugh) think he needs to change positions in the NFL. If Doug Flutie can make it as an NFL QB with his heart and passion, there will be nothing stopping Tim Tebow. This is something to keep tabs on, as a lot can happen between now and then…

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Campbell is underrated

Dan Snyder has surrounded him with at best a decent offensive line, some middling wide receivers and has expected him to be fantastic. He’s actually been above average for his career so far. I could see Campbell fitting in well with you guys.

by Dave the Falconer on Apr 8, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He's awful.

He has NO leadership abilities, he doesn’t get excited about football and he is a terrible decision maker.

I would rather have Kyle Orton than him (and I don’t want Orton).

There is also quite a bit of murmur coming from the Seahawks camp about either trading Hasselbeck or just flat out releasing him. I actually think that Hasselbeck is a very underrated quarterback throughout his career and that he still has several good years left in him. Just an idea to store in the back of your noggins.

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by UNFNOLE on Apr 8, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't really support either, but...

…Campbell has a higher rating, better TD-to-INT ratio, and higher completion percentage in almost the same amount of games (36 to Orton’s 33). Both have gotten better since they have come into the league and either might be worth a look.

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by The Bull Gator on Apr 8, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure....

but he’s not a winner. A quarterback can be above average and still not be a good quarterback. It is about FAR MORE than what you do with your arm.

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by UNFNOLE on Apr 8, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't pin all of that on him...

…the Redskins aren’t exactly the model of putting together a franchise over the past few years. They’ve thrown tons of money at overrated players time after time. It’s not like Campbell is losing games himself.

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by The Bull Gator on Apr 8, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'll stick it in my noggin

but he gets injured like my grandmother… aka all the time… no thanks! ha! i’d rather go with McCown

nice suggestion though and i’m with you on Campbell 100%, in four seasons his career completion percentage is crap… the guy defines mediocrity

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by JScott on Apr 8, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I mean...he's not that injury prone.

He missed quite a few last year, yes, but 06 was the only other year where he missed some games. He has had a much better than average injury record.

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by UNFNOLE on Apr 8, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he had a good line at Auburn and great backs

and did nothing…. i’m not buying it

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by JScott on Apr 8, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Um?

Auburn was undefeated during his final year.

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by The Bull Gator on Apr 8, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

did they go to the championship game

i rest my case…. LOL… i stand corrected

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by JScott on Apr 8, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you coulda emailed me

then i could have deleted my snafu…

thanks brother

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by JScott on Apr 8, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha.

Well what fun would that be? Much more enjoyable to call you out in front of everyone. I kid, I kid! Of course you could always delete all of these comments if you really wanted. HA!

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by The Bull Gator on Apr 8, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nah

i’d rather suck it up on a Campbell argument for all to see… if it’s any consolation my best friend is a Auburn fan and so i have a biased disdain for them coming into the argument that obviously leaves me blind at times

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by JScott on Apr 8, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Job Fit

It is all about if the QB fits in to the offensive scheme. Cutler was good at Denver but could be horrible in Chicago, simply because he does not fit in there. Campbell, Orton, or Hasselbeck could be excellent for the Bucs if they fit into the offense well and have a decent relationship with their receivers. All three of them are decent QBs they just need a better job fit. Also we still have no idea if we will even need any one of them depending on what McCown or Johnson do this season.

by JRyan on Apr 8, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

if the bears have a smart coaching staff

they will fit their offensive scheme to Cutler’s abilities. Hopefully Jags does that here as well, Bates included. You tend to fail when you try to stuff square pegs into circle slots. It’s why Gruden ultimately failed. You don’t throw the ball 30+ times a game when you have suspect QB’s, a better than average offensive line and good-to-great runningbacks

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by JScott on Apr 8, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

QB

i think we got younger we still have josh johnson and with him getting some reps in he could start befor season start’s and we do need a new face and why not johnson just like we needed pitman and williams one season when they got injurd and we all didn’t no who was earnest graham untill he showed us what he was about,

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by WE GOING TO THE SHIP on Apr 9, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If McCown, Johnson, Griese, and mystery QB #4 all flop miserably...

They’ll address QB through the draft, not in FA, and presumably would have a high enough pick to grab one of the elite guys. FA is going to be just as ugly next year as it was this year for the QB position. I’m not sweating it, though. 16 games to be played between now and then. I’m excited to see what McCown and Johnson can do in the preseason.

by OfficerRodFarva on Apr 9, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well said

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by JScott on Apr 9, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Better luck next year at QB position!

I don’t wanna see any of those free agents on our roster next year, except for Rivers, he’s a cool cat. Drafting Freeman in the 1st…. doesn’t seem like the smartest idea. Plus i am not sold on him, how many QBs are there every draft who have the physical tools but not the mental strength?
I am excited about next years draft, assuming that we have a high draft pick. I would be happy having: McCoy, Bradford or Tebow as our future QB. So in this draft we should draft DT Raji/Jerry or LB Cushing/Matthews. Draft QB next year.

by OSOperuano on Apr 12, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs