Raheem has coached with his head up high lets do the same we love this team and football

by gobucs on Dec 23, 2009 2:58 AM EST Comment 25 comments

we could have done a lot worse with what we had but we went young lets rool with it , fine if you disagree with me this is how i feel!

Quit all the bitching about a head coach. I mean they all gotta be rookies at one point, what i've seen this season is a contender on his way to be a champ. Raheem has done a better job then a lot of veteran coaches some seasons, we were in alot of close games, we have had flashes this season of what we could be, like Raheem said when he got hired "a game is decided on one or two plays" thats the truth this has been the best i've felt about a losing season. there is hope were young. last season we won those close games {well} more than this year we also had a BS scdule last year . He has made some mistakes but we all do and to have the backbone to say i messed up on this offense and defense cordinator thing, Monte left us but gruden was fired go back what if gruden was without monte 2 wins is looking good bout now. he would have been screwed at the point this team was headed, we are soo lucky our defense players stayed in the game as long as they did buut thats the past this new blood is going to work.so lets cheer this coach on maybe get wiess as OC maybe Lane gets fired lets pray, GO BUCS!! it could be worse we could have a couple of Great players like the lions but still no light at the end of the tunnel we have a light and his name is RAHEEM MORRIS so let this season be his first season a mullagan sit back stay a bucs fan dont lose hope , we can do this he is a buccaneer if i've ever seen one, we all learn the hard way .

so i will leave this with we only have 2 games left lets enjoy them, the wait is about to happen

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I love the optimism.

Even I dont give Morris a pass on some of the things he has done, but the bottom line is he is learning from his mistakes. It really wouldn’t have mattered who the coach was this year, this was a disaster waiting to happen.
The Glazers are not cheap people, they paid the most amount of money when they bought the Bucs than any other team at the time, and they have committed to winning. It is no more their fault they have a severe lack of spending money than any of us who are losing our homes because we refinanced at the wrong time. Do I wish they never bought Man U? Of course, but people do not change. When this interest payments is caught up, you can expect ownership to go back to business as usual.
1) There really wasnt a lack of spending, if you remember K2, Ward, Crowell were all free agents brought in, and Clayton and AB were re-signed and paid a lot of money.
2) Mistake of hiring Jeff Jags was the biggest mistake of the season. Because of that one mistake, it has ricochetted into a joke of a playbook, learning two systems for rookie Josh Freeman, O Linemen having to learn two different blocking schemes.
3)Change away from the Tampa Two was almost as bad of a move.
So I can appriciate Raheem and Dominik’s candor and honesty by making the firings during the season. Why put off for tomorrow….
But those kind of mistakes CANNOT happen again next year.

As for positives, it appears Morris and Dominik have an eye for talent. Josh Freeman has a lot of potential, and the draft yielded a lot of highs too.

Go Lions! en-dom-e-ken in 2010! Or we'll take McCoy for the Saints to enjoy.

by Niko Houllis on Dec 23, 2009 8:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

What ever you're smoking bro, pass it on over.

How do you know that Jagz was a mistake? He never made it to a real game. The mistake was promoting Morris to HC, he’s clueless and is lost. This “head held high” stuff I don’t get, he’s a zombie out there, and he knows he’s in trouble and way in over his head. Although I do believe there were many winnable games this year that we blew, I also think the two we won we probably shouldn’t have. Green Bay obviously over looked us, and Seattle quit, compare the first and second half, seriously. His leash is shorter than some people here think it is, so don’t be surprised if he is fired, which IMO would be the right thing to do.

by bucnut1 on Dec 23, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I Wholeheartedly Concur!!!

"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant

by Tye on Dec 23, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I still say a rookie coach need at least tw0 if not three years to be judged. Parcells benched Simms and only won 3 games his rookie year. Belichik traded his QB while his starting QB was injured, and had a horrible year (really a few bad years). Johnson only won one game in Dallas. I agree that his leash has been short, I have read the rports from PR. That even gives more reason to give him a chance. It has been said that Morris did not want Jags and bates in the first place, but there was not much else out there. Also, you deserve to win if you win, and you deserve to lose if you lose.

by McBuc on Dec 23, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Back up was injured

by McBuc on Dec 23, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The thing is all the people you mentioned had experience before getting the job.

Morris had 0. I’m not saying he won’t be a decent coach in the future, but in the situation he’s in now and with the experience he came in with, it’s not gonna work out. So next year he’ll have one unproductive year of experience, and more rookies and practice squad players. Maybe we’ll win 4 games, something to look forward to.

by bucnut1 on Dec 23, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Morris has 0 experience?

He has been here since 2002, how do you just throw that out the window.
Are you going to seriously sit here and tell me that Caldwell in Indianapolis is that freaking good of a coach to go 14-0? He hasnt coached before either.
Or maybe is it because he has Peyton Manning and all those star players?

I will say it once, I will say it a million times. Our problem is NOT coaching. Our problem is we are rebuilding.
Raheem trained under the great Monte Kiffin, one of the greatest Defensive coordinators of all time. He left for one year, to be a defensive coordinator at K state, of which ALL of their defensive stats improved. That is a fact, not an opinion.
You want to tell me Raheem is a bad coach? No problem. I will listen next year at this time if we also have a 2 win season. Somehow, Im willing to bet that wont be the case, and I dont mean because he wont be the coach here next year.
And Ive put my money where my mouth is. I know for a fact Raheem Morris will be the head coach here in 2010, only completely bombing in the next two games will make me think otherwise.

If the Bucs lose by less than ten this week, even Morris detractors will have to admit he is coaching up a storm.

And stop making excuses. First I hear “we lost to teams with back up quarterbacks” then we beat a team in a place we havnt won in ten years, much less only 4 times in 34 years, and your going to make excuses? Seattle quit?

You think NFL players quit? you think there is ONE NFL player who quits out of the entire league?

Go Lions! en-dom-e-ken in 2010! Or we'll take McCoy for the Saints to enjoy.

by Niko Houllis on Dec 23, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Polishing helmets doesn't count as experience.

by bucnut1 on Dec 23, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ya

I guess Tanard Jackson was coached by a helmet polisher. So was Barber, Talib, and Phillips. Also he coached under Jon Gruden and Monte Kiffin. I would say he got a good amount of knowledge from them as well. Put the best coach of all time behind this team and we still wouldn’t have won more than 6 games and that is even a stretch. I don’t know if you have noticed but our offense is much better than it has been in the past. We even set a record for yards gained in a game this year.

by Trobes05 on Dec 24, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yes now your really showing your knowledge by calling an NFL defensive backs assistant coach a helmet polisher.

And I suppose YOUR boss does more work that you do right?

Go Lions! en-dom-e-ken in 2010! Or we'll take McCoy for the Saints to enjoy.

by Niko Houllis on Dec 25, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You know what it's like in the kitchen, everybody goes to war. I've neve worked with a lazy EC.

by bucnut1 on Dec 26, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

point is its usually the guys below who do more of the real work..

than the guys above, who have more of the responsibility. The assistants to assitants put in 14+ hour days too.

Go Lions! en-dom-e-ken in 2010! Or we'll take McCoy for the Saints to enjoy.

by Niko Houllis on Dec 26, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I know how it goes. But you're giving Morris more credit than Tomlin, who did great here.

When Tomlin left, things got worse, when Monte announced he was leaving, the D rolled over and died. They’ve never recovered, cause now they lack talent. They have been playing better as of late, but I think it’s more because of they’re more familiar with the system.

by bucnut1 on Dec 26, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The players even came out and said it.

His offensive playbook was as big as a pamphlet. The offensive staff meetings normally last all day, with Jags they were done in two hours.

Go Lions! en-dom-e-ken in 2010! Or we'll take McCoy for the Saints to enjoy.

by Niko Houllis on Dec 23, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What do rookies and career practice squad players know?

by bucnut1 on Dec 23, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Where do I state rookies and practice squad players said this?

Your position is now getting so weak, that your putting words in my mouth.
Im done arguing this point if you need to stoop to that level.

Go Lions! en-dom-e-ken in 2010! Or we'll take McCoy for the Saints to enjoy.

by Niko Houllis on Dec 25, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Where did I say you said that?

by bucnut1 on Dec 26, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ahem

What do rookies and career practice squad players know?

Desean Jackson is one hell of a guy

by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 26, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ahem

OK, where did I say that Niko said that. Thought so.

by bucnut1 on Dec 29, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow Im confused

Glazers wont Cowher to pressure, Morris will be back in 2010

by Niko Houllis on Dec 30, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Noles and Walsh

Chuck Noll…1-13…rookie season

Bill Walsh…2-14…rookie season

Give Raheem a shot. Niko is right, what if these two guys were pushed out after they did not perform as rookies. I know they had more experience, but they share one thing in common with Morris, bad rookie seasons. In fact, Morris has more wins than either. I am not saying he will be the coach either of these guys became, but I am also not willing to say he will not.

by McBuc on Dec 29, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs