Draft 2010
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 8, 2009 8:34 PM EST
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Well, I've noticed a certain tendency among fans recently to rate draft picks for the Bucs next year. Being one part college football fan and one part pro ball fan, I'd like to hazard my guesses at what the Bucs should consider for next season. Go on past the jump...(edited on November 8)
Most Buc fans will likely agree with me in saying that one of the primary problems this season has been quarterback-receiver connections. It's one of the focal points of an explosive offense, and the Buccaneers have not had it this season. Whether it be Leftwich or Johnson (and shoot, why should Freeman be any better? Any reasons to believe he's better?) there is just no chemistry apparent in the Bucs offense so far. However, this is often shelved, due to a glaring problem. Tampa's defense. We've seen it since the first regular season game. Although the Bucs haven't faced a mass number of solid offensive units, there have been a lot of torch runs for touchdowns, both through the air and on the ground. So, which should the Bucs focus on? Fact is, it's not so simple. But, we can look at some possibilities.
First and foremost that come to mind are the likes of Tim Tebow, Colt McCoy, Brandon Spikes, and the outside possibility of Sam Bradford, who, due to injury troubles, plans on entering the draft in April. These four are the most immediately apparent not only for their abilities on the field, but also for their on- and off-field leadership, something the Buccaneers sorely lack. If we're going to base a first-round pick simply based on leadership off the field, Tebow seems to be the immediate choice. But there are defense concerns. Here would be my top three picks.
#1: Ndamukong Suh (DT, Nebraska)
The Bucs lack a pass rush, and Suh would probably be the best shot at providing a pass rush. His power is what most fans focus on, but he does have fairly good speed for a DT. He could be the next Lee Roy Selmon if his success continues. Purportedly, he's also a good run stopper, though he rarely gets to showcase this in the Big 12.
Didn't get him? The next choice would be: Brandon Spikes (MLB/ILB, Florida)
#2:Taylor Mays (S, USC)
I hesitate to pick Mays, based on a few big passing touchdowns the Trojans have given up this year. But we do lack a substantial secondary at this point. As good as a solid pass rush can be, the facts state that Sabby Piscatelli just doesn't have what it takes.
Didn't get him? The next choice would be: Eric Berry (S, Tennessee)
#3: Jordan Shipley (WR, Texas)
Fact: The Buccaneers need something substantial at WR. We've lacked a decent passing attack this season, and with our ever-present rushing problems, we need something through the air. Also, sadly, one passing target (Kellen Winslow) just won't cut the mustard. A second, speedier pass catcher is needed. Shipley provides not only the speed, but the hands to match.
Didn't get him? The next choice would be a good tight end or a good wideout, i.e. Jermaine Gresham or Dez Bryant, who has elected to enter the draft next year, according to most sports news sources I could cook up.
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Tebow and Graham????
Tebow if we can sign him as an undrafted free agent because at best he will be a running back and not a good one, and for Gresham I would say we have good TEs and don’t need to spend more on them.
My pick is Eric Berry because he will make an immediate impact and Philips should be gone next season. Suh(sp?), DT from Nebraska would not be a bad choice either.
by Trobes05 on Nov 4, 2009 12:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Correction
I meant Gresham in the title not Graham…opps.
by Trobes05 on Nov 4, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm
Like I said, Tebow’s throwing ability is underrated, even if his other attributes are overrated. I’m tempted to agree on Berry, but it just didn’t fully add up for me. I dunno. If I was picking a safety, truth be told, I’d rather pick an acclaimed safety out of the free agency, and in a perfect world, Aaron Hernandez (a future game-breaker at TE) would be graduating this year. But, these options probably aren’t best. Then again, a free agent safety IS a possibility, I suppose.
Bottom line remains. We definitely need a safety and a QB, as well as possibly one good WR (seeing as Clayton has suddenly dropped off the map).
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 4, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You may have meant
to say underrated in the post, but said overrated. Not sure which you mean. If you accidentally put overrated it may have simply been a Freudian slip. Haha (Not a fan of Tebow obviously)
Not a fan of any of these players. Major Wright in 2nd round maybe if we don’t take Berry or Mays in 1st.
You get what you pay for.
by LeeCaz on Nov 4, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Tebow as a QB in the NFL is a huge risk, even I would not take. But if he is to play another position it isnt going to be RB, maybe H-back. Most people have him at TE or FB. He would make hell of a FB. 6-3 240 sub 4.6. I am 100% he will be drafted withing the 3rd round.
by Hook85 on Nov 6, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fellow Florida fan
but this is one of the worst drafts I’ve seen.. sorry.
I like the players you picked but completely not for our team. You talk TE? Our TE’s are one of the only solid units on our team. Say you want, but K2 leads the team in catches.
by miracles83 on Nov 4, 2009 8:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not only that, but we just drafted a franchise QB, and he has until end of 2010 before the Bucs would even BEGIN to think about drafting another QB
That position is not a need one, except maybe to pick up a savy veteran who can still play.
Defensive Line (3)
Wide Receiver (2)
Corner (1)
Safety (1)
Linebacker (1)
are the most pressing needs, IMO, in order
Will the NY Jets please stop wearing those Titans uniforms. For a team that was only around for one year, Ive seen those uniforms 5 times already!
by Niko Houllis on Nov 4, 2009 8:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True...
Though I wouldn’t want to draft defensive line. D-line draft picks, aside from, say, Mario Williams, haven’t been good the last few years…and of course, there was Gaines Adams. I agree with the rest, though. We would definitely need some receivers, and a partially refreshed secondary, if not replacing the entire secondary save Barber.
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 4, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Gaines Adams was just a plain old Bust. Like every position...
its a crap shoot most times when you choose in the first round..but most of the time, thats where you find your future Hall of Famers. MOST of the time.
We have really hit and miss there in club history. First ever pick was Lee Roy Selmon, and of course Warren Sapp worked out great too. But we have our Adams, Booker Reece, Ron Holmes, Eric Curry, man I could go on.
I think this SUH is someone special, but I’m sure we will get more info in the months after season is over.
Will the NY Jets please stop wearing those Titans uniforms. For a team that was only around for one year, Ive seen those uniforms 5 times already!
by Niko Houllis on Nov 4, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gosh
I forgot about Suh. That was pretty dumb of me.
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 4, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care what happened in past drafts...
A good d-line makes an average secondary amazing, the same can’t be said when reversed. You HAVE to take d-line during day 1, we are TERRIBLE right now because of the wet TP we keep trotting out there every week.
QB and TE are the LAST things we should be wasting valuable draft picks on.
by Marky Mark's Third Nipple on Nov 4, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Suh, Berry, Cody are all guys we have to look at based on position. It’s feasible, though I don’t condone it, that if we have the 3-5 pick and Suh is projected to go at #1 that we flip our 1st and one of our 2nds to nab him. I think anyone who saw the Panthers game this year knows that our DT’s have to be upgraded in the very short term.
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by Buc Wild on Nov 4, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll have the first pick
and I pray we don’t trade it away.
by bucnut1 on Nov 4, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind trading down, assuming that our target(s) are still available
If you can get who you want and accumulate picks, go for it. But it is a gamble.
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by Buc Wild on Nov 4, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My only fear is
that they may be out to save a penny. I’ve never called the Glazers cheap, cause I think they are very smart with their money and we’ve been spoiled with winning seasons, a super bowl, and so on. But I do worry they may trade down to save. We’ve never had the very first pick (as far as I can remember, please correct me if I’m wrong) with the Glazers as the owners. I just don’t see them being crazy about having one of these out of control rookie contracts. Either way, we have to take Suh if he’s there.
by bucnut1 on Nov 4, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Talor Mayes
is better suited for the NFL, Berry is great in college but one of his aspects that makes him great is he plays sp aggressive. Its hard to see a 6-1 195 play that physical in the NFL, as Taylor Mayes is 6-3 230 and just as fast.
by Hook85 on Nov 6, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
scratch 6-1, its 5-11 and add 5lbs
same theory, I think he will be good, but not as great as he plays in college
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 5:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Berry has the brains, "Mays" has the physical ability but lacks the basic knowledge of his position.
Gaines Adams = Size
Elvis Dummervil = Technique
Ya, I’ll take a cerebral guy over size 9/10.
by Marky Mark's Third Nipple on Nov 9, 2009 3:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Couldnt agree more..
its like drafting QBs, WRs, TEs, but you have no O line.
You put Spires, Culpepper, Sapp and Rice in their prime on this line, you can make Sabby and Will Allen look like John Lynch and Dexter Jackson. DL is a MUST.
Will the NY Jets please stop wearing those Titans uniforms. For a team that was only around for one year, Ive seen those uniforms 5 times already!
by Niko Houllis on Nov 4, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Agree! Its gotta be Suh, McCoy, or Cody first. 2nd round we gotta grab a MLB who can stop the run and a speed rusher or a corner. Maybe Brandon Spikes falls. Time to retool this defense.
by zakattackthe on Nov 4, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Spikes would be a huge pick
if he fell to the 2nd round, but I doubt he will. Right now hes 2nd and 3rd for linebackers in the draft. TWith te SEC champ game and the BCS champ game still left, may have him move up real fast in the draft.
by Hook85 on Nov 6, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed on suh or berry
i dont think anybody on the list above may even be a first rounder. i agree after watching the panthers kill us on the ground a dt would help but look at tanard he makes every tackle for us ! so with berry roaming around back there to we would easily stop the run and the deep pass !
by the420bucsfan on Nov 4, 2009 9:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's getting all the tackles because the D-line
by Marky Mark's Third Nipple on Nov 4, 2009 10:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
and lb's are letting them walk right through?
by Marky Mark's Third Nipple on Nov 4, 2009 10:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
We need help on D but really we need to address the leader of this team!
We need to address getting the pressure on the QB first our D if we continue to run this system relies totaly upon that fact. Allowing our NFC South rivals to run for over 300 yards on us twice is just disgusting. This team needs inspiration no one projects a sense of urgency or excitement. No passion it is just brutal to watch they say that attitude reflects leadership, well if you have a sorry excuse for a leader you will have a sorry attitude from the players. Wrong choice for our new HC and I have to say for our new GM as well. Huge mistakes starting with the Draft a QB was the last thing this team needed. All the knee jerk reactions from Raheem letting go of all of our vetreran leadership at once the dismissal of the offensive cordinator one week before the first game. Then lying about why he was dismissed. He is so overwhelmed it isn"t funny at all.
by Raz Al Gool on Nov 4, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
and now in return, Raheem is on the receiving end of knee jerk reactions from the fans of the team he coaches. Sweet, sweet irony, eh?
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 5, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We draft Tebow....I will lose all respect for Dominik, Morris, and the Glazners
Anyone drafts Tebow in the first round are nothing but media hyped (ESPN) whores. Oh wait a second, Al Davis is still alive isn’t he?
He is the big kid in the playground that beats everyone up just because he is physically developed more. When he gets to the NFL with kids his same size, they will beat him down and expose him for what he really is, a system college quarterback with subpar accuracy.
by buccanator on Nov 6, 2009 7:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
6 foot 3, 235-40 pounds
Ya, that’s unheard of size for anyone in college these days….
by Bucs on Nov 6, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wrong
way wrong,
funny though, maybe you should let the head coahces of NCAA know, all they need to do is find a 6-3 235 player and BAM they have one of the best college football players of all time.
Tebow will be drafted, whatever position that is, he will not be beat down.
by Hook85 on Nov 6, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Tebow is a phenomenal college football player.
He will go down in Florida Gators history as one of the best Gators of all time. You cannot discount his leadership, his playmaking ability.
But the fact is, there have been other great players in college that just dont make it to the pro level.
Tony Madarich
Brian Bosworth
Geno Torretta
You could really make a list a mile long.
I have not read ONE, NOT ONE SINGLE article from anyone in the media, who says Tim Tebow will go anywhere higher than the 2nd round….as any position besides Quarterback…and 3rd or 4th round or worse as a Quarterback. He does NOT have the arm strength for the NFL.
Will the NY Jets please stop wearing those Titans uniforms. For a team that was only around for one year, Ive seen those uniforms 5 times already!
by Niko Houllis on Nov 6, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arm strength is not what he lacks
it is the mechanics. He drops the ball too low, his release is too slow, and throws side arm at times, his feet are all over the place when he throws, and has only been under the center a few times in his life, and trouble reading zone defenses.
Not that it matters, but arm strength is not a problem. He can throw the ball 50-60 yard fly or a 20 yard out to the side line on a rope.
by Hook85 on Nov 6, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good points
Will the NY Jets please stop wearing those Titans uniforms. For a team that was only around for one year, Ive seen those uniforms 5 times already!
by Niko Houllis on Nov 8, 2009 5:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No ......He's not.......
He has phenomenal players around him………..His 20/20 TD stats are bogus because instead of letting the runningbacks run the ball at the goal line, they let the goof pad his stats.
To say the Greatest Gator of All-Time is an insult to the fine players that have attended the great university.
With Freeman’s play today……..I hope the Tim Tebow idea is throw out the window.
by buccanator on Nov 9, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
I usually read your comments and take them to consideration, but now I really dont know. Do you honestly think running Tebow inside the 5 is padding his stats?
Better question, if you were the head coach of UF, would you use a RB instead of a 6-3 235lbs bull? if the answer is yes, then I question your knowledge of football strategy from here on out. Did you think Dungy was padding Mike Alstotts stats when he ran him at the goaline. Becuase Tim Tebow is a Mike Alstott, at QB.
by Hook85 on Nov 9, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok I'll give you the Mike Alstott at QB.....I agree
My knowledge of football strategy is just fine…..my personal opion of Tebow is just my personal opinion. I know there might be alot of Florida Fans who are also Bucs Fans. I just think annointing him as the greatest Florida Gator ever…is reaching.
Percy Harvin gets the credit for last years National Championship, not Tebow. Tebow is a good college quarterback with top quality players around him.
Thank God Josh Freeman showed up yesterday, so the question of drafting Tebow is out of the question.
by buccanator on Nov 9, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
#14 - Jags
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#32 - Saints
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by Bucs on Nov 9, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cleary I am one of the biggest Gator fans to comment on Buc em
and even I find this biased. Carlos Dunlap DE, Joe Haden CB, would be the only players I could see the Bucs drafting and actually needing them at those positions, but not with a number 1 pick, wich mostly likely we will have. If Spikes, Haden, Dunlap(if he enters), Wright, Hernadez slip to the second or third round then yes.
Wright is the only play I see not going in the 1st round though.
by Hook85 on Nov 6, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dunlap is falling like hell
and is going down to the Vikes later in the rounds. Yikes
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 7, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think everyone
would be happy with Suh at number 1.
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 5:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tebow
We likely get the first pick and take Suh, which everyone seems to think is a solid choice. But I don’t see anything wrong with taking Tebow with the first pick of the second round if he is available. We still have another from Chicago so we aren’t losing anything. And getting Tebow would go a long way for the fans in forgiving the owners for hiring Morris.
by higher on Nov 7, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WINNING
will be the thing that goes a long way in the fans getting OVER the Morris pick.
Will the NY Jets please stop wearing those Titans uniforms. For a team that was only around for one year, Ive seen those uniforms 5 times already!
by Niko Houllis on Nov 8, 2009 5:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Tebow
Even if he pans out in the NFL, it cant be the Bucs. The only teams Tebow will be able to survive on would be a team that plays around his abilities. Imagine a slower JJ, and thats how Tebow would look. Maybe a team like the Dolphins, where they run a college offense already. But Henne has been solid, and they have Pat White. The Titans, maybe since thier offense is centered around running first.
I am getting off track, having two second round picks and wasting one, on a player is not a way to win a fan base.
by Hook85 on Nov 8, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Vikings?
Thought popped in my head. I could see the Vikings drafting Tebow.. Imagine Tebow back with Harvin, adding AP and then sitting a year under Farvre. Could be a great idea
by miracles83 on Nov 11, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh ya, duh.
I even mentioned that on the vikes blog site
by Hook85 on Nov 11, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Suh is
suddenly back online, now he looks like a good first pick. When I wrote this he had just had a pair of subpar performances and didn’t look like he was worth much.
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 8, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious? Did you watch him versus Missouri 3 weeks back?
He’s been doing this ALL season. You just have to pay attention.
by Marky Mark's Third Nipple on Nov 9, 2009 3:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WE REALLY NEED
TIM TEBOW, OUR OFFENSE SUCKS- WE WON BECAUSE OF OUR D TODAY- FIRE RAHEEM MORRIS
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 8, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But...
we could just as easily turn around our offense with, say, Mark Ingram, a halfback. Also, it would make more sense, barring Freeman being a complete bust in the remaining games he plays, however few or many they may be.
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 8, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You do note that
was sarcasm
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 8, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Troll of the week my friend
Will the NY Jets please stop wearing those Titans uniforms. For a team that was only around for one year, Ive seen those uniforms 5 times already!
by Niko Houllis on Nov 9, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What?
See above
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 10, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Edits
I made some edits. Some pretty big ones.
Since Suh has come back from the dead, and we do lack safeties, as well as Bryant looking to enter the draft, etc. etc. etc.
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 8, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If/when you edit again, keep your original stuff up there, that way we can see how some things change.
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by Buc Wild on Nov 8, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this edit
Suh, Mayes, Berry, Shipley would all be nice 1st round picks, especially if we can trade down a little and still get one of the above. Also Shipley reminds me of a Wes Welker becuase he can also return punts. Wich Welker mostly did well for the Dolphins until they stupidly traded him.
by Hook85 on Nov 8, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
but I’d say we definitely need to trade for another first round pick. Problem is…what do we have to trade? So maybe wish upon a star for an additional pick, but, who knows, we might get to pick enough of this year’s class to get some good build-up heading into 2010 or 2011.
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 8, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Patriots would probly take two #2's for a number 1 pick. lol
by Hook85 on Nov 8, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
That’s how they build their franchise, hate to say it but its an effective way without having to worry much about finance.
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 8, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know if that strategy could work for anyone though
a lot of genious coaching schemes they run, its easy for them to draft a player who fits that mold.
Like Monte did here on Defense
by Hook85 on Nov 8, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we have to package two picks (i.e. two number 2's) to get another #1, I pass on that deal
We need more picks. You can get solid, NFL-ready players in the second round, the cost is less and right now. More able bodies > higher paid bodies
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by Buc Wild on Nov 9, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This...
Pretty much exactly how the Patriots draft, I don’t think that example would be a bad one to follow.
by RuudAwakening on Nov 9, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would with out question
trade all of our picks after the 4th round for anything in the 1, 2, or 3 rounds. But no other team would go for that. For the most part, anything after the 3rd round usually don’t make the team.
by bucnut1 on Nov 11, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Except...
Everyone we got after the 3rd this year. Correct me if I am wrong here, I know a couple guys are injured but I believe everyone we drafted made the team right?
by RuudAwakening on Nov 11, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tanard Jackson, Stroughter
I think I showed all our 4th round or later picks that made our team in years past in another thread. Geno Hayes is another. Depth is too important.
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by Buc Wild on Nov 11, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know we kept a few
but it’s not the norm, and we’re not good either.
by bucnut1 on Nov 11, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody
likes good third down wide receivers, because they appear to be useless on first and second down. haha
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 10, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a deep draft and TB has two 2nd rounders plus a probable High 1st rounder
they should trade down get extra picks this draft is gonna have 1st round quality picks into the third round. I say TB focus on the secondary and wait until later first day to cherry pick quality DL’s quality receivers will still be there in the 3rd round.
by bucfan76 on Nov 8, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TO EVERYONE...
I apologise for all the Gator talk, I dont normally bring that into this blog, unless someone else starts it.
by Hook85 on Nov 9, 2009 1:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
TEBOW
Should not be drafted with a top 15 pick. Tebow has been beaten up in college, he suffered a concussion in college because he doesn’t know how to not take a hit…in the NFL these guys are bigger, stronger, faster, TeBow wont be able to out run many guys, he wont be able to run over anyone except maybe reggie bush….I love Tebow, his leadership, his heart, but he wont be able to do a fifth in the NFL that he did in college, I can see him turning into an average TE, but is an average TE really worth a top 15 pick?
by shadowchicken on Nov 9, 2009 1:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
His concussion
had nothing to do with how to take a hit, he was falling backwards and hit a knee. Not much he could have done. I bet the Jags take him in the 1st, I’ve been promised a $20 if he goes in the 1st round. :)
by bucnut1 on Nov 11, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My draft
I don’t think we’ll have the first pick. I think we’ll win at least one more game.
I don’t know what the obsession is with safeties. Tanard Jackson plays well. Sabby is getting better, but Jermaine Phillips is a better strong safety. I just wish they would have left well enough alone with him.
With all that said, here is what I would draft:
1st: DT Suh, McCoy, Cody are all players that could anchor our line with Roy Miller for years. Suh is the only top 5 talent, so if we could move down and get an extra second or even third rounder, that’d be great.
2nd: DE There are a bunch of DEs here that I think will be available in the early second round. My personal favorite is George Selvie. His numbers have fallen since his sophomore season, so he’ll drop some. If you watch any of the games, though, you know he gets double/triple teamed regularly and still manages to get TFL. He can play the run too. Admittedly I’m a bit of a homer, but another high DE would go a long way towards shoring up our DLine. I guarantee you that if our DLine plays better, Ruud, Black, and Hayes will start to look like amazing players.
3rd: CB Talib, as long as he stays out of trouble, is going to be a great corner. We still have another year from Ronde and Mack is not ready to play nickle. We need to get a guy here that can push Ronde for starting opposite CB or play nickle for us. A guy coming from the mid second round (Chicago’s pick) should be able to do this.
4th/5th: WR/OL We have a lot of potential at both positions currently, but either depth or performance is lacking. Stovall would be great if he’d play to potential. If Clayton developed his first year form, we’d be set. Stroughter is going to be a great receiver for us, I just don’t see him having the size to last as a true WR#1.
On the OLine, we need another Jeremy Zuttah. Someone who isn’t a stand out, but can play reliably well in reserve. Hopefully we lock up Penn long term, so that means a RT and back up OLine is really what we need there.
After that, I’d pick up whoever is available that we think has a chance to be special, regardless of position. If you’re going into the fourth round trying to find answers to immediate problems, you’re in trouble. This is where value is sought a lot more than need.
by Charkh on Nov 9, 2009 2:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cody
probably has minimum chances in the NFL. I’m pretty sure they won’t let a 360 pound guy play in the NFL. I agree, we do have problems with the offensive line. See the first touchdown of our comeback against the Pack, that play was all Freeman, you gotta admit. He had no blocking on that play.
by 'Nak Kecil on Nov 9, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are a few 360 pounders in the league.
And Charkh, I like Selvie too, I think he brings a lot to the table and could be a sleeper pick. But I too, am a homer.
by bucnut1 on Nov 11, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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