morris must go NOW!!
this is the worst coach in the NFL...but as usual he was hired at a K-mart price with K-mart skills...and whats with his selected group of QB,s? they are all terrible....but I guess they are just a reflection of thier leader.....hummmm...maybe he should fire the d-coordinator as well....then the Special Teams Coach.....then the other assistant coaches then the scouts then the beer sales guy then the peanut sales guy then any one else he can blame for his lack of skills....oh well he sure can chest bumb his players like a pro even when there losing he's excited about just being a head coach (for a short time, hopefully) even if his team sucks bad!!!!!
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I disagree
Even if we had the best coach ever we would still have a losing record…give it some time man.
by Trobes05 on Oct 6, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
like thatoptomism
Just real frustrating, been struggling for respect since 1976 then dungy comes in and does a great job with little or no talent….got us a little spoiled
this morris guy is not the respectable leader we deserve…Morris must and will go…..has too
the mart man
by martymar on Oct 6, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand.
What have you stated in support of Morris being either a bad coach or not a respectable leader? Your post contains nothing of intelligence or reason in support of him being a bad coach.
Do you realize he’s cleaning up the steaming mess that Gruden and Bruce Allen left behind? You have to give him a chance. This post is ridiculous.
Cannons... fire them.
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by Craig T on Oct 9, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sup
Craig, haven’t seen you around for a while?
J.J LOVE SPREADS while RAHEEM MORRIS'S PLAN FOR NFLDOMINECION IS COMING TO AN END.
by Some other guy who does not care on Oct 9, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Word.
Lot of stuff going on. I made my way over to the GDT two weeks ago.
Cannons... fire them.
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by Craig T on Oct 9, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will be good to
see you back again
J.J LOVE SPREADS while RAHEEM MORRIS'S PLAN FOR NFLDOMINECION IS COMING TO AN END.
by Some other guy who does not care on Oct 9, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much appreciated
I’m along for the ride, even if it’s going to be a de-railed one. The development of some of these young players and the upcoming offseason are going to be so huge. I’m as interested in seeing that play out as I am about what’s taking place on the field.
Cannons... fire them.
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by Craig T on Oct 9, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*I meant to say evaluation AND development,
as I’m sure some guys just won’t make it long term.
Cannons... fire them.
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by Craig T on Oct 9, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
like that optomisim
Just real frustrating, been struggling for respect since 1976 then dungy comes in and does a great job with little or no talent….got us a little spoiled
this morris guy is not the respectable leader we deserve…Morris must and will go…..has too
the mart man
by martymar on Oct 6, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ya
Not saying he is a good coach but its not just him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets canned after this season or next unless there is a turn around. I still think he was signed because the Glazer’s didn’t want to sign a sub par head coach for a lot of money since no one was left when they fired Gruden. I am hoping Cowher wants to come in and take over but that’s a reach.
by Trobes05 on Oct 6, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cowher is going to Panthers
He already has a lot of ties to the Carolina area, and that is the job he wants. John Fox prevented it from happening last year, but you can bet your bottom dollar that Bill Cowher will be the head coach of the Carolina Panthers next season after this debacle of season they are putting up.
by LeeCaz on Oct 7, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope not
I would hate for him to be in the sout.
by McBuc on Oct 7, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have heard....
that Rumor of Bill Cowher going to the Panthers for those reasons also. I have also heard that Mike Shanahan is likely to go to the Cowboys and Mike Holmgrin is likely to go to the Redskins so if any of these are true and The Bucs do fire Morris their is not much of a chance the Bucs will get a coach of their caliber. If so, I wouldn’t know who it could be.
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
by Tye on Oct 7, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless we go 0-16
I think they will give Morris at least one year, probably two. You never know though. It’s not like they aren’t going to go after one of the Mikes if they express interest in coming here.
Morris is still learning on the job, as our most of our players. I think it’s pretty obvious at this point that Morris would have been better off serving time as our D.C. before getting the head coaching job. Would the defense have been this terrible with him calling the schemes? If yes, then he never would have gotten this opportunity so in many ways he should consider himself lucky.
Where does Morris’ salary stack up against other coaches? I heard his is the lowest in the NFL. You get what you pay for. (I’m thinking about changing my user name to that)
by LeeCaz on Oct 8, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were shocked when Gruden and Allen got fired
I wouldn’t be surprised if they fire everyone to get a top notch coach or GM.
by buccanator on Oct 8, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt say little or no talent,
Sapp, Brooks, Lynch, Culpepper, Nickerson, Abraham, Alstott, Mayberry, Gruber, Beckles, Rhett, there is some talent there!
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by Niko Houllis on Oct 10, 2009 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
Rod Marinelli IS the worst coach in the NFL.
"What we do in life echoes in eternity..." - Maximus Decimus Meridius
by Buctooth on Oct 6, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Players win Championships
It started with Sam Wyche bringing in quality players. Rich McKay and Tony Dungy bringing in more talent on top of that. Then when the players hit there peak with key FA pickups to fill the holes, we win a SuperBowl with Jon Gruden.
Coaches direct the players in the right direction but the players have to execute.
We have talent on this team and I do feel that this coaching staff is subpar. With that said, A lot of changes need to be made but firing the coaching staff right now will not help anything. We are in a growing process that wil take years to fix.
If the Glazers want to be competitive again, we will have a new staff and new players in a couple of years. No Quick fixes any time soon.
We go 0-16 and remain uncompetitve. Then yes, everyone needs to be fired. If we go 0-16 and improvements are apparent, then Raheem Morris needs to stay and grow with the proper coaching staff and proper players.
by buccanator on Oct 7, 2009 7:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like I've said before
nobody takes a 9-7 team to a 0-16 team and keeps their job. Heads are going to roll if that happens. Morris and maybe even Dominik.
by LeeCaz on Oct 7, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here we go again
I don’t disagree that 9-7 followed by 0-16 is bad, but the talent level has changed. Now, Morris may have had a say in it, but you can’t compare 08 to 09, they are two COMPLETELY different teams.
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by Buc Wild on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just sayin
Marinelli had nothing to work with, should have been given another year IMO, but he still got canned. Fans will demand the head of someone. They may be able to get away with only firing Olson or Bates, but I doubt it.
Let’s quit this 0-16 talk anyway. It’s depressing.
by LeeCaz on Oct 7, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sam Wyche
never gets any credit, but he did have a pretty good eye for talent (-Dilfer). But Dungy took over and did a great job with it. I wonder if Dungy would be interested in a GM job, I would love to see that. He’ll never coach again, and if he tried, the Colts would have some say in it.
by bucnut1 on Oct 10, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ive heard that idea brought up alot, that if Dungy were to get into football again,
It would be as a GM. However, it was probably more Rich McKay that eyed the talent. In Dungy’s book, he talks about how he wanted a RB named McElroy. Wanted him bad! He was taken right before our pick, so the Bucs hesitantly took Mike Alstott! We ended up getting McElroy anyways a couple years earlier…he was a bust. Just one example though….
JJ vs Skins prediction- 17/29 243 1 TD 1 INT 9 Carries 72 yards 1 TD
by Niko Houllis on Oct 10, 2009 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MartyMar, glad you weren't around in 1996 or you would have been saying..
Tony Dungy is the worst coach ever, we should have gotten Jimmy Johnson or Steve Spurrier. We need to fire those kmart assistant coaches Lovie Smith, Herm Edwards, Rod Marinelli, ….
The Bucs did NOT save money by firing Jon Gruden and paying him 3 million a year ON TOP OF Bruce Allen’s salary, to sit down on MNF, AND pay a head coach too. The cheap way would have been to simply leave Gruden in charge, and have a bunch more 9-7 seasons with an occasional 6-10 and an 11-5 when we play a soft schedule.
This is only a 4 game losing streak on a team that has had 0 losing seasons in the last 2 years. Be patient, be thankful you dont have to sit through 14 losing seasons like some of us did.
If he truely is a bad coach, the Glazers are commited to putting a winner on the field, and if they can fire a coach who won them a Superbowl, and fire a coach that completely turned the franchise around, they can fire Raheem too.
Thanks for the FanPost…although taking a few more seconds and formatting it properly would have given it more of an impact instead of sounding like your just peeved as if its 2 minutes after watching the game.
JJ vs Skins prediction- 17/29 243 1 TD 1 INT 9 Carries 72 yards 1 TD
by Niko Houllis on Oct 7, 2009 7:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only 2 Bucs CoachesAvoided an 0 - 4 Start
Perkins and Wyche…I like McKay, Dungy, and Gruden’s company better. This year is the time for Raheem and the young Bucs to learn, next year is the time to grow (8-8), and the third year is time to prove it to the world with a visit to the playoffs. This is hard to watch, nut I think we should all give Morris and the rest of the Bucs some time to grow. Niko said it all in the post above.
by McBuc on Oct 7, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying I have 100% faith in Morris, but do people realize that this is a top to bottom fail so far?
Everyone has had a hand in this, including Gruden and Allen. To blame just Leftwich or just Morris is insane.
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by Buc Wild on Oct 7, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very True. Just like one play doesnt lose a game, there are MANY faults for this
JJ vs Skins prediction- 17/29 243 1 TD 1 INT 9 Carries 72 yards 1 TD
by Niko Houllis on Oct 7, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BucfanlostinIowa
and martymar…. please continue to stick around and read the articles, educate yourselves and properly assess the situation.
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by UNFNOLE on Oct 7, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are people actually offended by the idea of needing factual support?
“It’s my opinion” isn’t a free pass to spew retarded crap.
I can say “Mike Vick is a better quarterback than Tom Brady.” Nobody agrees with that, but if I say “in my opinion” I’m still going to be told how much of a moron I am, right? There’s a place for opinion, but it’s not an invite to say anything you want and get away with it by not using some facts.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 8, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's silly
to want people to want to back up everything they say with facts. This is not a newspaper. You are allowed to have opinions, whether they be “retarded” or not. If you want to prove something a stat line can go a long way, but some people can’t see the forest for the trees and they are not going to change.
The same person that thinks Mike Vick is better than Tom Brady is not going to be swayed by a plethora of stats, figures, and graphs. They are going to believe what they want to believe. The stats out there are available to anybody that wants to look them up. Obviously you are a stats guy. That is what determines your opinion. Just realize that there are other people out there that are different.
Sometimes people just feel a certain way and screw the numbers. I think that is an aspect of blogging that many of you guys fail to understand. Not everyone cares about numbers, some people just like to watch the games and form an opinion based solely on what they see on the field.
I’m kind of a half and half guy myself. I like stats to a certain degree, but I think many people read too much into them. It’s hard to find factual reports for some things people say. Why should they have to scour the internet in search of support for their statement because they said something silly in a Buc’s blog? You guys take yourselves way too seriously sometimes….. In my opinion :-)
by LeeCaz on Oct 8, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"some people just like to watch the games and form an opinion based solely on what they see on the field."
I do the same.
Here’s the difference:
1. I then refer to the numbers to make sure what I’m seeing is correct.
2. I’m well aware of my ignorance on certain aspects of the game.
Most people are far too quick to tell you what they do know and will never admit to what they don’t know.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 9, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that justifies your being here
because you reference your opinion with stats that you choose to find.
by Hook85 on Oct 9, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BucFanLostInIowa,
Can you make your name shorter?? man that is tough typing out!!!! JK of course.
I Think this is an excellent chance for me to butt in and express how I want this site to run.
1) This site is useless if you, the reader, are not allowed/free/feel comfortable to create a fanpost and speak your mind and/or tell us how you feel about an issue.
2) Its equally as useless if people cannot feel free/ comfortable to post WHATEVER comments they want to based on THEIR opinion.
Seems to me, UNFNOLE’s opinion, is that your opinion on Morris is based on not knowing that many points of view, and that you should read articles on here because we come at the situation from different angles. He did not call you a name, nor did he say it rudely with slurs or vulgar words. If you want the freedom to post anything you want to, you need to be prepared for the guy who is going to totally disagree with you 100%, and may even on occasion call you out to explain your opinion with more detail…
On this site, you are free to have ANY opinion in the world you want to…as long as you can BACK IT UP with an explanation. A STAT is not required. However, like the above relates to, Tom Brady is better than Terry Bradshaw is an opinion. Terry Bradshaw has more Superbowl titles that Tom Brady is a fact. The latter can support the prior, by using superbowl wins as one possible criteria for “better than”, but in that case someone has backed up what they said, with an explanation/fact, not necessarily a stat.
So far, Id like to say that for 60+ comments, all of which are aimed at each other, this has been kept quite civil, and every single person in this thread deserves a freaking medal for not letting this get out of control.
BFLII-(thats bucfanlostiniowa shortened LOL!)- you may be correct that there may have been, at times, an aura of ‘better than you-ness’ that you describe. In much as I just used a word that does not belong in one single version of Websters, I can promise that wont happen on here anymore as long as I can help it.
Thanks to everyone for posting and keeping it , well, sort of civil!!!
JJ vs Skins prediction- 17/29 243 1 TD 1 INT 9 Carries 72 yards 1 TD
by Niko Houllis on Oct 8, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Niko for President..haha
Now can you stop the conflict between N. Korea and S. Korea!
by Hook85 on Oct 9, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES! Nuke them Both, then put Jon Gruden in charge of S. Korea, and Rich McKay in the North!!!
oh wait.. WWIII will surely come out of that! Never mind on the world peace thing!
JJ vs Skins prediction- 17/29 243 1 TD 1 INT 9 Carries 72 yards 1 TD
by Niko Houllis on Oct 10, 2009 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other words...
I may not agree with what you have to say, I but I will defend to the death your right to say it…
Voltaire
JJ vs Skins prediction- 17/29 243 1 TD 1 INT 9 Carries 72 yards 1 TD
by Niko Houllis on Oct 8, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THIS POST IS BEING CLOSED TO COMMENTS BECAUSE....
I actually really like this post and how it has gone, but Im afraid the fact that some people are coming in 3 days later and responding to situations that have already been resolved, that its going to re-arm this powder-keg!
Unfortunately, I do that myself sometimes, I find a good post, but a few days too late, and then I put my .02 cents in!
So im going to close comments for this post, as everything we are talking about in here can easily lead out into another post somewhere…..
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