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Accountability? Morris, Dominik show mettle.

Message clear to non performers...

Message clear to non performers...

The first few weeks, we heard the questions. "Where is the accountability". Then the losses piled up as did the heat on GM Mark Dominik and Head Coach Raheem Morris. "Morris is too cozy with his players". 

It would seem that the gassers Morris ordered first day of camp was not enough to persuade some that he is to be taken seriously. Friday night, the message got clearer for many. 

Dexter Jackson, can't return kicks or catch? Gone.

Jeff Jagodzinski? Can't give the details required? Gone.

Mike Nugent missing FGs? Gone.

And now, Gaines Adams, the franchise's compensation for the miserable 2006 season, the 4th overall pick in the 2007 draft, traded for a second round pick from the Chicago Bears

Truth be told, most fans feel like it was a steal. Adams was expected, even challenged, to produce a double digit sack season which would've require double his efforts. Obviously the pressure was too much to ask of him; Adams went several games without so much as a single stat to show for his challenge.

Star-divide

Some will harp on the fact that we now wasted that #4 pick. This is not news, Adams status has been sealed for some time now, yesterday's news just became official, thats all. In much the same way Dexter Jackson's release was a sea of doom for some, his wasted pick just needed confirming too in the same way Adams had been.  Instead, the topic of the conversations this weekend should focus on the Bucs management, and their willingness to make the tough decisions and cut players who are clearly not producing and a burden on the franchise, at the risk of the major backlash its sure to create.

Unlike the releasing of former Offensive Coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski, most of these cuts are not exactly an admission of a mistake. All except the OC were the result of poor draft records of the previous administration. Still, the message seems clear to those who are dropping passes, missing tackles, and just poor play overall. Where you were drafted does not matter. How much money you make is of no concern. Dominik and Morris are doing everything BUT use the R word, but in the process are setting up the Bucs with draft picks for next year, when the real rebuilding begins.                                                                                                                     

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I know we all have complained about Morris and Dominik

but thus far, I’d say 75% or more of their personnel moves have been the right ones.

Signing Clayton has turned out to be a mistake (thus far). Signing Nugent was a mistake, but they corrected it. 0-5 isn’t pretty but as long as steps are being taken in the right direction, its progress.

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by Buc Wild on Oct 17, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don’t give Morris and Dom too much credit here, I’m sure there was pressure put on them to make some moves. Nugent and Jackson were no brainers, I’m still not sure benching Leftwich (do to horrible play calling) and firing Jagz where the right things to do.

But I am pleasantly surprised and shocked that we got a 2nd rounder out of Adams, I have no idea how they pulled that off. Now I just pray that they don’t go blow it on one of Freeman’s buddy’s from KState (that’s if Morris is still around).

by bucnut1 on Oct 17, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has no buddies left at K State, Yamon Figurs was the only guy who really teamed up with Freeman, and thats why he is on the Bucs now.

Besides, you cant give Morris and Dominik TOO much credit. You just give it to them when they deserve it, because we didn’t give too much or little criticism

If anyone can get production out of Gaines Adams, it will be Rod Marinelli. Good Luck Gaines and thank you Bucs for restoring my confidence that there is accountability.

by Niko Houllis on Oct 18, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im not sure about costly. It was a mistake.

They could have waited, but instead let the team spend 09 with their new OC instead of waiting till 10

If anyone can get production out of Gaines Adams, it will be Rod Marinelli. Good Luck Gaines and thank you Bucs for restoring my confidence that there is accountability.

by Niko Houllis on Oct 18, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perfectly said.

If anyone can get production out of Gaines Adams, it will be Rod Marinelli. Good Luck Gaines and thank you Bucs for restoring my confidence that there is accountability.

by Niko Houllis on Oct 18, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i am kinda

surprized we got rid of adams…i still think he can be effective if he was the 2ed guy on the line. Like if someone else required a double team, i believe adams going 1v1 will win most of the time. I was kind of hoping we could steal Seymore, or Peppers, and draft a big DT for the middle and our DLine would be complete. But now we have 3 picks in the 2ed round…think we can trade some lower picks for a higher one? (2,3,4 for a first round)??

by shadowchicken on Oct 17, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually we lost a 2nd rounder for Winslow...

"Put it on Film" (not on the glass)

by chiefs_55 on Oct 18, 2009 2:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I hope the organization is also *accountable in their efforts

…and fires Morris for his lack of performance that you speak of, Niko…

"Put it on Film" (not on the glass)

by chiefs_55 on Oct 18, 2009 2:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Im sure Morris will be evaluated at the end of the season fairly,

for his efforts during the entire season, all 16 games.

If anyone can get production out of Gaines Adams, it will be Rod Marinelli. Good Luck Gaines and thank you Bucs for restoring my confidence that there is accountability.

by Niko Houllis on Oct 18, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The bucs spent the preseason

evaluating Leftwich vs Luke and by week 4 both were done with their bucs careers. That was a huge waste of valuable time in developing Freeman and Johnson. The Bucs went all preseason without a challenger for Nugent and by week 4 he was gone. That was a waste of an opportunity to make the guy prove he belonged on the team. And the Jags thing has been covered and is a huge waste of time and effort. These are all big mistakes by the coach and/or front office and have nothing to do with spending more money.

by kevinjc on Oct 18, 2009 8:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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