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What the Bucs Need To Win

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have a situation on their hands. Without a win in the playoffs since winning Super Bowl XXXVII and a disappointing 9-7 season this year, Bucs fan are asking how the Pirate ship got off course. While you can place the blame on many reasons for the team's current state, the inconsistency on offense needs to be priority number one if the Bucs are to return to glory.

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Defense has been the Tampa Bay Buccaneers bread-and-butter since the Glazer's bought the Bucs in 1995. The list of great defensive players that come to mind from Tampa's recent history include Hardy Nickerson, Donnie Abraham, John Lynch, Warren Sapp, Simeon Rice, Derrick Brooks, and Ronde Barber. That said, I still believe the defense is in good hands with our "Changing of the Guard" coming up. Derrick Brooks and Ronde Barber will soon retire and pass on the leadership of the defense to our new guys (Barrett Ruud, Gaines Adams, Aqib Talib, and Sabby Piscitelli). No big changes needed.

On the other hand, our offense has never taken an identity during the last 15 years. Our only glimmer of light shown when Mike Alstott and "insert running back here" could keep our ground game afloat. Our identity crisis on offense makes me believe this is where Glazer, Allen, Gruden's focus needs to be this offseason. By getting what we need instead of the quick fixes, we will create the consistency our offense has not seen and the productivity the fans have been waiting for.

QB - We need a our first franchise quarterback in recent history. No more journeymen. No more wondering who will start all the way up to the first game of the season. Develop a rookie or find a proven winner that hasn't hit menopause. Let Garcia and McCown go. Griese can be insurance. Don't screw around with Josh Johnson if you're not willing to put the time in to develop him.

RB - If Gruden decides to be run-oriented, then we have to get a play maker at running back. Earnest Graham and Clifton Smith are not enough. With one of the largest free agent RB pools this offseason, the Bucs need to fish for a big one.

WR - If Graham and Smith are the only two RBs in Gruden's future, then he must invest in receiving talent. Sign Antonio Bryant immediately. Find a receiver that can catch the ball. I don't care if he's fast or big, we need hands. Noticing our track record of rookie WRs (Stovall, Clayton, DJax), I'm not so sure we should draft one.

TE - We're good here. We need help elsewhere.

OL - No matter whether we have Dan Orlovsky or Peyton Manning behind center, we gotta block. I know I could completely blame the O-Line for Garcia's happy feet this year, but watching you guys this year looked like a scene from David Carr's nightmares. We can not have inconsistency here. With the amount of OL talent in this year's draft, I say make our first pick here.

While the defense needs some touch-ups, the offense needs to be rebuild or we will keep seeing the same results year after year. An offense of play makers with familiar faces will get the fan base excited, put butts in the seats, and put us on nationally televised games. It's time we wear those cannons out. It's time that people are afraid of us on both sides of the ball. It's time we use that $45 million we have lying around and get serious about football Mr. Glazer.

Let me know what you think...and GO BUCCANEERS!!!

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What is the Bucs greatest concern that needs to be addressed this offseason?
I agree. We need consistency in the offense for a chance to win.
43 votes
Forget the offense! We need to focus on our aging defense.
21 votes
It's Gruden and Allen's fault. We need better leadership in our management the most.
21 votes
It's DOOMSDAY at One Buc Place! Fire everybody and start from the ground up!
9 votes

94 votes | Poll has closed

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Here's my collective problem

When you listed top needs and top priorities… under quarterback you said:

Don’t screw around with Josh Johnson if you’re not willing to put the time in to develop him

That is the problem with the Bucs on offense. “Development” is a foreign term. You remember how big Jon Gruden was on Michael Clayton when they first drafted him? Clayton had a great first season and then was forgotten in the offensive scheme. It’s almost like a Attention Deficit Disorder with players — instead of working with Mike to make sure he remained a key part — he was forgotten for the next flavor of the month.

It’s the whole story with Quarterbacking. As the saying goes, Gruden dates quarterbacks. He doesn’t commit. I think the telltale sign was watching how Simms was “Brought along” — instead of Gruden telling Chris to drop back further in the pocket to make sure his passes got over the line of scrimmage — it was Simms fault and he wasn’t good enough.

No one is ever good enough. And that’s why I voted on your poll that Gruden and Allen are the problem — the no-teaching/developing philosophy is a hindrance. If ready-out-of-the-box players are all Gruden and Company can work with, then the Bucs being at and over the cap limit in the future is the only way to stay competitive – because he won’t spend time with a rookie to and work with a kid. He’s got better things to scheme about.

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by jpfdeuce on Jan 9, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree

with your Chris Simms synopsis whole heartedly, because Gruden finally implemented the shotgun formation for Jeff Garca while ignoring the positives it would have presented for Simms…

As far as Clayton though, the guy dropped so many passes, i can see why Gruden didnt feed him the ball more, plus he got injured alot.

Bar none, i think Gruden miss manages his talent on the team, time and time again. It’s the main reason why i feel Gruden and Allen were the problem as well…. If only Gruden could get over disdain for certain players, this team would be better. On the flip side, who knows how those same players treat and respect Gruden behind closed doors….

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by JScott on Jan 10, 2009 1:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

More on Clayton

He also delayed a surgery between his rookie and 2nd years that kept him from being able to play by not getting it in time, plus let himself get out of shape and came into training camp about 25lbs heavy and was slow by the time he recovered. I can understand why he’d be phased out; the problem is Gruden won’t phase anybody back into the offense once they are healthy (see Galloway, Joey).

by kericr on Jan 12, 2009 10:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and thats whats scary as hell

because it makes you wonder, would it matter what type of talent we have? If that talent were to rub Gruden wrong with a wrong comment to the press or not running a play to pure perfection…

i wish he would grow from that. You can’t excel with a healthy Galloway on the bench. What Bruce Allen said in the presser really pissed me off in relation to 4th round draft pick Dre Moore, basically saying that they knew Moore would have a redshirt this year with Jovan and Hovan filling spots, you dont draft a kid to do a redshirt (like Dexter Jackson)… stuff like that makes me honestly believe they are inept in the talent department

With Monte gone, it will be intensely interesting to see if the talent remains at the level it was or whether the talent evaluators that we think Gruden/Allen are will show through and become their true downfall

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by JScott on Jan 13, 2009 9:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Honestly, I'm not 100% certain that Monte is a really good NFL talent evaluator

Don’t get me wrong, I believe he’s a superior coach, but there isn’t really a good way to tell because he’s only had 1 draft where he was able to get a handful of players under Gruden, (2007). From that class, Adams has underwhelmed, Quincy Black is nowhere to be found, and Tanard Jackson knows how to destroy wide-recievers, but isn’t all that great in covering them. Piscitelli has been solid which is a plus, but there’s not enough of a sample size here to go on.

by kericr on Jan 15, 2009 5:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree

We do need a franchise qb and another good wr, but I don’t think we need to draft another o-line nor sign a rb. These two will be luxury picks for us and we do have glaring needs.. on defense. Hence, we were putting up close to 30 pts on the board the last 4 weeks and still lost.

I like Hovan for his run-stopping, but we need a monster DT alongside him. Add a great DT and we will see Adams have an amazing year. We could also use another DE and CB.

My projection of needs are 1.qb 2.dt 3.wr 4cb 5. right tackle (I’m so over Trueblood). Honestly, if we get a good qb and dt, we will be very good this next year. All of the pieces are pretty set, but we need a playcaller and someone to get to the playcaller.

by miracles83 on Jan 10, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I think we go for the best available at a position that may not be need

but certainly important. BJ Raji. He will be one of the best defensive tackles coming out. The man is a freak.

There will not be any quarterbacks in this draft worth going after. Lets give Johnson a year to show us what he has.

by UNFNOLE on Jan 10, 2009 11:22 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The contradiction

Johnson could “show us what he has” but even then, he’s either going to become a flavor-of-the-month or show he isn’t the cremé-de-la-cremé and lose Gruden’s support all together… In the end, he’s a passing fancy no matter what he shows in camp or during the season. The next-big-thing will make him a forgotten toy soon enough. That’s not his fault, that’s a limitation of the Gruden/Allen braintrust.

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by jpfdeuce on Jan 10, 2009 12:58 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree there is some real limitations

as long as Gruallen are here. But my guess is next season is a wash anyway, so what do you have to loose if Johnson is at the helm? There are no quarterbacks worth going after IMO.

by UNFNOLE on Jan 10, 2009 6:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with you...

unless there is a Quinn/Aaron Rogers/Joe Flacco-type situation available to the Bucs at pick 19. If a talented QB like those slides down that far, you pounce.

Cannons... fire them.

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by Craig T on Jan 10, 2009 6:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you saying

Bradford-Stafford-Harrell

or only the first two in terms of pouncing?

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by JScott on Jan 10, 2009 7:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are any of these guys actually worth a first round pick?

Or have they been hyped up to be a first round pick because of the lack of quarterbacks in this years draft. The quarterback quality IMO is really down. None of these guys are guys I would expect a franchise to bank on.

by UNFNOLE on Jan 10, 2009 9:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know.

Do you know? If so, how? The above-mentioned guys were pretty damn good in college. Really, the QB position can be a crapshoot to some degree. Joe Flacco couldn’t start over Chad Henne at Michigan. Matt Ryan was blah until his last year, year and a half at BC. On the other hand, Kyle Boller was considered a “top-10 pick” coming from Cal’s pro-style offense, and JP Losman was thought to have all the arm and the tools to be a good player, but fizzled. Vince Young… can’t miss QB prospect after Rose Bowl. Blech NFL play, bench.

In short, the QB position is as finicky as you will ever find for evaluating talent. You just never know. If there’s any guide to follow, IMHO, for evaluating a QB, it’s looking at the kind of system he ran in college and whether he had the ability to read defenses and make audibles into good plays, and whether he can make the 20-30 yard throws consistently. Even if you can find a QB that can make all the plays in practice, can they still make them in pressure situations against live defenses? That’s where the real stars emerge.

Cannons... fire them.

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by Craig T on Jan 11, 2009 10:56 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know yet.

Let’s see how those guys look in the offseason and if a Flacco-type player emerges. Point is… if there’s a potential franchise guy there, we’re overdue making a move to get one. Could Josh Johnson be the guy? Maybe, but again, I don’t know. It’s time to get a solution to the QB position long term though and I’d like to see 2 young guys there to compete.

Caveat, if there’s not a guy available at 19 who looks like a possible solution, don’t draft a QB just for posterity’s sakes. Find a nose tackle, cover corner, or pass rushing DE, if one worth the pick is available. God forbid if a guy like Percy Harvin or Michael Crabtree is available, do it.

Cannons... fire them.

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by Craig T on Jan 11, 2009 11:03 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nobody ever knows

with the quarterback situation. But it doesn’t stop speculation.

I just don’t know if I would be encouraged if Tampa drafted a QB with a first round spot. Most experts think this is a down year on QB’s. I am all abotu BJ Raji finding a home on Tampas line as a nose tackle. The dude is flat out scary.

by UNFNOLE on Jan 11, 2009 5:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With their MO...

it’ll be Griese and another Flavor-of-the-month. Johnson would never touch the ball outside of the pre-season. So, while the “what do you have to lose / next season is a wash” opinion may be something I agree with, I just don’t see Gruden giving him a chance. Even Gradowski was a worst-case-scenario move… And Jon would approach the season like we’re thisclose to Super Bowl 44.

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by jpfdeuce on Jan 10, 2009 9:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well,

I just thinks it what we SHOULD do. Not what Gruallen is willing to do. They are continually taking steps back (or steps nowhere, which in the NFL is a step back). Until they are gone, this franchise will continue to be mediocre. I agree with you that they are unwilling to see how far off we really are.

by UNFNOLE on Jan 10, 2009 9:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New GM and a new Head Coach is needed

Gruden and Allen have proven time after time that they can not properly evaluate talent in their offensive scheme. Monte decided who gets drafted on Defense but Gruden and Allen decided who got drafted on offense. From Marquise Walker to Dexter Jackson, their offensive talent evaluation has been an abortion at best. The only talent they have actually spotted is Davin Joseph and Jeremy Trueblood. Two players in 7 years worth of drafts is not going to cut it in this leage. It is time to part ways with both of them.

by PewterPirate55 on Jan 12, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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