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The aftermath... Who's to blame???


I can't even really figure out how to start this post, so I guess I'll start it with an image summarizing the performance:

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Ok.  I feel better.

Over the past several days, fans have been calling for everyone's heads: Gruden, Bruce Allen, Jeff Garcia, Ronde Barber, Gaines Adams, Mickey Mouse, and Chris Simms.  Ok, maybe not the last two, but with so many fingers being pointed, thought I might be able to sneak them in there. 

So, who's really to blame for this epic collapse?  There's plenty to go around.  Many on here want to blame Jon Gruden.  Does he deserve some of the blame for this?  Yes he does.  He has to take some, he's the head ball coach.  He's the appointed recipient of the credit and blame for the team's successes and failures.  I think the game planning and play calling was suspect at key times this year. The running game should have been a bigger part in the offense.  He avoided the running game like a one-armed leper when it was unsuccessful for one series, opting to throw, throw, throw, which is what his west coast offense is unfortunately designed to do.  Problem is you had one viable healthy receiving threat for much of this year and underutilized your other one, Jerramy Stevens (who should have gotten targeted like a No. 2 WR, but that bitchy rant of mine will wait for another day).  Once healthy, there was no excuse for Joey Galloway to sit his ass on the sidelines as the team kept losing unless he was injured, but Gruden told us that it was because he played the same position as Antonio Bryant, so that was a crock.  He should've been on the field with Bryant at the X and Z WR positions.  Horrible decision in my mind.   Moreover, instead of owning the debacle, Gruden put off the blame on injuries, which is what no one wants to hear.  Injuries are a part of the game.  Every team goes through them.  You lost at home to San Diego and Oakland where one win puts you in the playoffs.  What specific injury cost us that win? 

If injury does have an effect, it's on a team that is piss poor in depth at key positions, which is the Bucs' case to some degree.  As such, Bruce Allen should also go under the microscope.  As Justin Polawski pointed out today on AM 620, most NFL teams will find key backups in the draft between the 3rd and 5th rounds.  Thus, starters should be found in the 1st and 2nd rounds.  You really can't afford to swing and miss on these picks too often.  Not too get too specific, but Dexter Jackson was a whiff of a pick who was risky because he was raw as a prototypical WR.  Missing out on Adrian Peterson might bite the team in the ass, but Gaines Adams should get one more year to show he can cut it in this league.  Overall, the 2007 draft was pretty solid, but 2006 was a complete bust after the 2nd round.  With the exception of Alex Smith, 2005 and 2004 picks past the first 2 rounds have mostly failed as well.  Now, with approximately $20 million of room under the salary cap to play with and plenty of needs to address, this offseason might be Bruce Allen's last chance to right the ship and make quality draft picks and free agent signings that will allow the Bucs to stay competitive in the short term and fill the void of several aging vets likely to be gone in the relatively near future. 

How about the defense?  They just didn't execute down the stretch.  900 rushing yards allowed in the last 4 games is just inexcusable.  Michael Bush ran for over 150 yards and a score in the most important game of the year where the Bucs knew that the Raiders would be pounding the ball.  Derrick Brooks missed tackles.  Barrett Ruud missed guys.  Ronde Barber was beaten soundly.  Phillip Buchanon was exposed, especially in the San Diego game.  Adams, White, and Carter got NO  pressure and Hovan and Haye were moved off the ball too much. Just an overall failure on the defensive side of the ball.  Hard to believe after shutting down Adrian Peterson and the Carolina two-headed monster so effectively earlier this year. 

Who do you think is to blame? 

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Everyone's to blame, but some are more to blameworthy than others

It’s a team — so everyone is to blame to some degree, but every team needs leaders — the coaches, sure, and the players with the “C” stitched on their unis, of course. But, to borrow from Coach Gruden, leaders are the guys who bring the juice not just to practice each and every day, but who have the respect of their players and the authority to bring a verbal bucket of ice cold Gatorade into the locker room and get the team back in gear.

Where were they? Certainly such leaders were needed after the Carolina game, and were desperately needed after the Charger meltdown, and urgently needed to roam the benches and keep everyone focused when the score was 24-14.

Where were they? Whoever they are, they deserve a bigger portion of the blame stew than the rest. More important, as Mr Glazer, Mr Allen and Coach Gruden search for new players, may I suggest to the team that they search for new leaders.

by DayOneBucsFan on Dec 30, 2008 11:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

good point

well said

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by JScott on Dec 31, 2008 6:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it is $46 million under the cap according to Pewter Report

the largest in the league

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Dec 31, 2008 9:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

GRUDEN

Gruden has a losing record with the Bucs.

Despite being labeled an offensive genius, the offensive play calling is not creative. I hate Belichick, but he actually calls creative plays.

We have no offense, and our defense has slowly declined.

Gruden has had his chance.

by plasticman on Dec 31, 2008 11:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

No he doesn't

He has more wins than any other bucs coach. He went over 500 earlier this year or the end of last.

by miracles83 on Dec 31, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the scary thing is the breakdown

This defense was running on all cylinders for much of the year. Sure they had some breakdowns (Barber, Brooks, Haye) here and there but they stopped some major run competition up until that final quarter of the season and held their own in the pass game.

How do they fix that? The defense simply wore down. Everyone talks about the defense being old, but there’s only a handful of old guys there (Hovan, Brooks, Barber, and Carter) and two of those guys don’t play every snap. Like you alluded to CT, depth is a major issue. To me its very depressing that a guy like Greg White got a contract that included pay escalators on performance and all he could muster was 5 sacks. That’s a year after recording 8 sacks. The drive wasnt there on defense and the line faded much of the season.

The offense just doesnt have the talent necessary to excel in the NFL. Oh it has it, it just doesnt get utilized. How long did it take for Caddy to get a screen pass thrown his way? Look what he did with the opportunity. Galloway’s sitting on the sidelines shuffling his thumbs. Dexter Jackson never got a look in the offense despite getting opportunities (and producing) during the Pre-Season.

Who do I blame for the collapse? Coaching or lack there of and the talent of the product on the field. That falls squarely on Gruden and Allen’s shoulders. Do i think Gruden should be fired? No, i think he should be on a short leash, but the success has come despite the injuries and lack of talent. In seven years the man has one a Super Bowl and three NFC South titles. He’s also only two games over .500 here.

Should Bruce Allen be shown the door? I think so, for whatever reason he hasnt found a way either through the draft or through free agency to upgrade this offense. We are essentially still watching Tony Dungy’s inept offense and Monte Kiffin’s pro bowl defense. Though Monte is leaving and his defense is breaking down. Something has to give.

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by JScott on Dec 31, 2008 7:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

perfect image

the bucs fell flat on their faces four weeks in a row… all they had to do was beat the lowly Raiders… shameful

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by JScott on Dec 31, 2008 7:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

are you kidding ?

i read that article in disgust !! who ever thinks jeremy stevens can even hold onto a football is a joke hes up there drops as a tight end .. and you wanted him as # 2 wide reciever ? did we watch the same season ? the defense was #4 right up til monte kiffin left the men for the boys ! i know you dont wanna blame the man who made us but he screwed us for 19 year old boys .. so dont attack our hall of famers attack the real manm who called the plays.. cant believe this article .. worthless!!

by the420bucsfan on Jan 1, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL. Let's see....

…. don’t blame the players who didn’t make the plays, let’s put ALL the blame on the coordinator who’s leaving to coach with his son. Right. I’ve got a bridge for sale if you’re interested, buddy.

You should read more closely. I didn’t “attack” anybody. I pointed out what everybody saw except apparently you… namely that key players missed tackles and assignments and were out of position too often during the closing stretch. If that’s an attack, then I guess in your book I can’t criticize anybody for poor play, and ESPECIALLY captains or future hall of famers. Sorry, it’ll be sunshine and rainbows around here from now on, k?

Regarding Stevens, I didn’t say I WANTED him lined up as a #2 WIDEOUT. I wanted him targeted more, more involved in the offense, because Antonio Bryant stepped up alongside……. who…….? Ike Hilliard? Michael Clayton? Brian Clark? Blah. Please. Stevens has mismatch capability as a TE (which we saw in several games this season when he was actually involved in the offense) so he should’ve been targeted a helluva lot more. Is he Jason Witten? No way. Is he capable, in this offense, of catching 4,5,6+ passes a game? Yes. Gruden managed to cleverly line him up inside on man coverage and split him out on a safety for a key TD in the Chicago game, which I believed he took credit for setting up that play. If you don’t think Stevens has talent and should be utilized regularly, then I weep for you.

Cannons... fire them.

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by Craig T on Jan 1, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

o.

hey critisim is what goes with righting those articles so sorry i hurt you ! seattle called said thanks again for taking jeremy stevens off there hands .. he dropped countless passes for them and now us ? must be those steroids ? wow what an athlete ?

by the420bucsfan on Jan 1, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"Righting" those articles?

Sigh…..

Cannons... fire them.

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by Craig T on Jan 1, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not steroids

mixed the story up, since luke petitgout and jeremy stevens were suspended at the same time . Petitgout got the steroids charge , and jeremy stevens got a DUI and possession of marijuana either way we don’t need these problems !

by the420bucsfan on Jan 1, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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