like to agree with your point of view. I just was trying to understand it. My point of view is that I see Gruden as an equal to Shanahan because of the comparable record. I wasn’t using it as a dig against your perspective. I was honestly just trying to see what was the reason for thinking Shanahan is better. and I read it in your last post. “Shanahan is miles ahead of jon Gruden in designing an effective offensive scheme, which is something Gruden has been completely incapable of doing since coming here in 2002”.

I would slightly agree with you on this point. Shanahan is probably a little better offensive schemer. Experience and personality plays a lot into it. But he also lacks the ability insert the necessary discipline into his players. His last 2 qb’s include Cutler and that retired tampa bay player :). They both have awful TO numbers. The entire team had bad numbers when it came to fumbles.

This doesn’t fly in Gruden’s system. When a player fumbles, throws interceptions or just lacks heart then he gets benched for someone who wont.

Now I’m not saying that this makes Gruden better than Shanahan, but it just shows their different strengths.

And was it such a bad deal for Jon Gruden to coach to our strength – the defense? The majority of the talent and the salary cap is on the defensive side of the ball. Just because we won most of our games in close fought defensive match-ups doesn’t mean he just went along for the rollercoaster and got undeserved credit. He could’ve pushed the envelope and tried to ignore the defense, but he didn’t. He listened and played to wear our strength and money are. Sometimes the best decisions are the ones where you listen to the opportunity laid out before you.